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The Pomp Podcast

#560 Felix Hartmann on De-Fi, The Metaverse, DeWeb and Privacy

5/20/2021 · 59 min · transcript via mlx

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Key topics

Felix Hartmann's evolution from equities trader to crypto hedge fund manager, emphasizing long-term infrastructure building during bear markets rather than capitalizing on short-term hype cycles.

DeFi business models and revenue accrual mechanisms (buy-and-burn vs. staking), with MakerDAO as a case study showing $195M annual profit competing with traditional finance.

Fair launches and decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs) as alternatives to venture-backed token allocations, solving principal-agent conflicts between teams and communities.

Automated market makers (AMMs) as a solution to liquidity fragmentation in decentralized exchanges, using constant product formulas to enable permissionless trading.

The metaverse as a multi-trillion-dollar digital economy where 50–75% of waking hours will occur, requiring decentralized infrastructure to prevent corporate monopolies (e.g., Meta/Facebook).

Privacy as an underexplored but critical theme; Bitcoin and Ethereum are pseudonymous but transparent, creating systemic surveillance risk via chain analysis firms like Chainalysis.

Market & price signals

None discussed.

Actionable insights

Evaluate DeFi tokens by asking "how does this token accrue value?" Avoid tokens with zero cash flows or governance-only promises; favor protocols with proven revenue (fees, liquidations, stability fees) and buy-and-burn mechanics that create deflationary pressure.

When assessing new projects, verify team allocation (should be ≤20% supply), liquidity depth, and exit mechanics; avoid 1,000%+ APY yields, which signal unsustainable minting and imminent rug pulls.

DeFi built on Bitcoin (via second-layer solutions and sidechains) remains mispriced relative to Ethereum-based DeFi; this vertical integration of decentralized money with decentralized finance presents asymmetric opportunity.

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