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Rapha Zagury: Tether's Bitcoin Empire, Taking Over XXI and What Comes Next

9/15/2026 · 65 min · transcript via mlx

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Rapha Zagury's background: Brazilian hyperinflation, frozen savings, and family fleeing WWII shaped his monetary skepticism and eventual Bitcoin adoption.

His Wall Street career (Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch) and post-2008 financial crisis disillusionment led him to co-found Elektron, now the third or fourth largest Bitcoin mining operation globally.

Twenty One Capital's strategic pivot from treasury company to operating company under new CEO Rapha: mining, M&A, energy trading, securitization, and lending.

Potential acquisition or integration of Elektron into XXI; both firms pursue profitable cash-flow-generating businesses rather than purely financial arbitrage.

Tether's role: majority stakeholder in XXI, primary backer of Elektron; Rapha argues Tether serves real need as transparent alternative to fragile banking systems in emerging markets.

Ocean pool leadership changes and BIP 110 controversy; importance of decentralized block template creation and proper corporate governance in Bitcoin companies.

Market & price signals

None discussed.

Actionable insights

Bitcoin treasury companies should benchmark against Bitcoin itself on a risk-adjusted basis; mining and diversified operating businesses can reduce portfolio volatility compared to spot holdings alone.

AI and high-performance computing infrastructure carry significant mispriced risk due to narrow margins of error and potential technological disruption, despite current hype—Bitcoin mining remains more capital-efficient and predictable.

Stable coins like Tether fill a critical need for unbanked and financially repressed populations; self-custody in Bitcoin remains the ideal, but intermediate steps toward sound money in emerging markets reduce systemic friction.

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