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#1235 Carson Block | The King of Short Selling Reveals His Secrets

8/21/2023 · 72 min · transcript via mlx

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Key topics

— Short selling operates on two distinct levels: traditional short sellers betting on declining fundamentals, versus activist short sellers like Muddy Waters who investigate and expose fraud, misleading disclosures, and management manipulation to build public cases.

— ESG has become rife with abuse and greenwashing; companies exploit subsidies through inflated valuations and accounting tricks (notably in solar), while excluding carbon costs in manufacturing and backup systems.

— US-China investment dynamics remain dangerous; China has codified legal barriers to SEC cooperation, frauds rarely face prison time, and the cycle repeats when investors forget past lessons and rush back in for growth narratives.

— AI stocks are experiencing the same narrative inflation seen in prior bubbles; legitimate AI opportunities exist but SPACs and loose valuations create room for future fraud once capital continues flowing into the space.

— Tech companies that went public from private markets at sky-high valuations (WeWork, BuzzFeed, etc.) face structural headwinds; some may stabilize at lower valuations but business models like rent arbitrage struggle to justify premium multiples.

— Activist short selling is not scalable beyond a certain AUM threshold because quality targets are mid-cap and smaller, trades have limited capacity, and maintaining conviction requires meaningful personal investment and tolerance for litigation and threats.

Market & price signals

— None discussed.

Actionable insights

— Distinguish between activist short sellers doing investigative work and traditional short sellers betting on factor momentum; activist research into fraud requires months of field work, subsidiary analysis, and expert interviews—not quick momentum plays.

— When evaluating companies and management claims (especially in growth sectors or with complex accounting), cross-check filings across multiple jurisdictions, examine subsidiary financials, and remain skeptical of narrative-driven valuations disconnected from unit economics.

— In private-to-public company transitions and Chinese listings, presume structural information asymmetry and regulatory risk; the absence of prosecution (especially internationally) lowers consequences for fraud and perpetuates cycles of misleading disclosure.

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