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Alex Leishman: Institutions Are Buying What Retail Sells — Plus How to Keep Your Bitcoin Safe

8/20/2026 · 36 min · transcript via whisper

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Retail investors are net sellers of Bitcoin while institutions accelerate accumulation, particularly through ETFs, representing a decade-long shift in ownership composition.

River's client base remains net buyers during the bear market despite lower overall trading volumes compared to the prior year; only 15% of clients move Bitcoin to self-custody.

Force Field, River's withdrawal delay feature, protects against social engineering attacks and scammer impersonation—a practical defense against the rising threat of account takeovers.

River is designing a new quantum-resistant custody system with extensible architecture to accommodate future Bitcoin security upgrades without requiring coin migration.

The current bear market drawdown (approximately 50%) is shallower than previous cycles (2011: −93%, 2013–2015: −87%, 2017–2018: −84%, 2021–2022: −77%), suggesting potential for further decline given typical bear-market duration.

Leishman opposes taking River public, citing long-term vision misalignment with quarterly Wall Street pressures; the company remains focused on perfecting its dual-currency banking model.

Market & price signals

Bitcoin's drawdown is currently around 50% from peak, notably shallower than prior bear markets. Previous cycles lasted one or more years; the current downturn is approximately nine months in. Trading volumes at River are the lowest in roughly eighteen months, though bear-market volumes now exceed the previous cycle due to company growth. On prediction markets (Kalshi), more than 50% of traders expect Bitcoin to fall below $55,000 by year-end. Target buy orders outnumber target sell orders among River clients, indicating opportunistic accumulation at lower prices. New client onboarding remains steady, though lower than during bull-market periods.

Actionable insights

Monitor institutional flows and on-chain ownership trends; the institutional-to-retail shift suggests long-term maturation but requires vigilance on governance implications as large pools of capital accumulate voting influence.

Implement account security habits immediately: assume all external communications are potentially malicious, verify through official apps or direct outreach, keep personal information minimal across platforms, and activate withdrawal-delay features like Force Field.

Conviction-based accumulation during widespread bearish sentiment historically outperforms timing-dependent strategies; if first-principles Bitcoin fundamentals remain sound to you, periods of broad negativity present asymmetric risk-reward for long-term holders.

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