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#1437 Anthony Pompliano & Phil Rosen | Are Countries Buying Bitcoin?!

11/13/2024 · 31 min · transcript via mlx

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Key topics

— Bitcoin surpassed $100,000 and has doubled in value this year, with more than half the gains occurring after the 2024 election on expectations of pro-crypto policy.

— Wall Street and institutional capital are entering Bitcoin markets through ETFs and direct allocations, de-risking the asset as its market cap grows and attracting larger pools of capital.

— The U.S. should consider placing Bitcoin on its strategic balance sheet similar to gold reserves, following examples like Bhutan ($1 billion) and El Salvador ($100 million in gains).

— Companies are adopting Bitcoin treasury strategies—MicroStrategy, Core Scientific, and MetaPlanet accumulate Bitcoin using capital markets to fund additional purchases, creating a compounding yield effect.

— Publicly traded stocks benefiting from Bitcoin appreciation include Coinbase, mining operators (Hut8, Marathon, Riot), and ETP providers like DeFi Technologies, alongside indirect plays like Tesla and NVIDIA.

— ETFs serve as the critical gateway for mainstream institutional adoption by allowing fund managers to allocate to Bitcoin within regulatory frameworks previously unavailable for direct exchange purchases.

Market & price signals

— Bitcoin is up more than 100% for the year and now ranks as the eighth largest asset globally, exceeding all public companies except six major tech stocks. It has appreciated to approximately $1.5 trillion in market cap. Coinbase is up 70% since the election, MicroStrategy up 60%, Tesla up 35%, and NVIDIA up 9%, reflecting investor conviction in Bitcoin-correlated plays. The price action reflects expectations of monetary expansion, lower interest rates, and a reflexive cycle where higher prices attract larger pools of capital, de-risking the asset further.

Actionable insights

— Consider allocating a meaningful percentage—likely between 3–7% rather than just 1%—depending on portfolio risk tolerance and time horizon; portfolio managers treating Bitcoin solely as a gold replacement allocation will undershoot long-term opportunity.

— Evaluate exposure through both direct Bitcoin ownership via ETFs and indirect positions in Bitcoin miners (Hut8, Marathon, Riot), custody and exchange operators (Coinbase), and treasury-focused companies (MicroStrategy, Core Scientific) that benefit from appreciation.

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