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The Pomp Podcast

#505: Daniel Scrivner on Great Design & Crypto

3/4/2021 · 47 min · transcript via mlx

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Daniel Scrivner's background spans Apple, Square (where he scaled the design team), and now Flow, a productivity platform he's turning around as CEO with Andrew Wilkinson's Tiny Capital.

Public market valuations are at historic highs, driven by reflexivity—the self-fulfilling cycle where price increases lead to belief in higher valuations, visible in GameStop, Airbnb, DoorDash, and Crypto assets.

Robinhood's "commission-free" model is deceptive; users pay hidden costs through order routing to Citadel and restricted trading access, unlike alternatives such as Public.com or Interactive Brokers.

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency offer global, decentralized transactional utility but remain plagued by poor user experience, accessibility, and education; crypto is "nerds building for nerds."

Early-stage company success depends almost entirely on founder grit, determination, and willingness to operate with conviction for 5–10 years through multiple pivots, not on market or product alone.

Fintech represents the largest market opportunity of the next decade due to continuous disruption; established players face displacement by newer models despite crowded competition.

Market & price signals

Daniel's personal portfolios (Future Shape fund and Perpetuity Fund) were up 30% in January alone, driven by elevated valuations in disruptive tech and family-held luxury businesses (e.g., LVMH). He notes that historic highs do not preclude further gains; valuations today may be low relative to future performance. He references George Soros's concept of reflexivity to explain market dislocations. Crypto investment history: he began investing around Bitcoin at $2,500 and experienced prolonged underwater positions before recent gains. He invests probabilistically in crypto rather than forming definitive judgments, viewing Bitcoin as a long-term store of value rather than a short-term speculative asset.

Actionable insights

Use stop-loss orders at 10% below current prices to limit downside while capturing continued upside; avoid all-cash positioning based solely on historic valuations, as future performance matters more than past highs.

Evaluate exchanges (Robinhood vs. Public.com vs. Interactive Brokers) by understanding hidden costs and order routing, not just headline commission rates; prioritize platforms that actively protect user interests over those exploiting information asymmetries.

Build personal investment conviction by understanding your own brain wiring, risk tolerance, and investment style before placing bets; borrow conviction from no one, and recognize that value investing and growth investing both succeed—the method must match your temperament.

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