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How Ondo Is Bringing Stocks and Perps Onchain | Ian De Bode

7/2/2026 · 48 min · transcript via whisper

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Ondo brought tokenized SpaceX stock to Ethereum within five minutes of its NASDAQ IPO on June 12, using pre-integrated market makers and RFQ (request-for-quote) infrastructure rather than AMM pools.

Tokenized stocks require real TradFi liquidity, not shallow DEX pools; Ondo charges a 5 basis-point spread over the live NASDAQ/NYSE price to cover volatility buffer and execution risk.

Ondo Perps enables equity perpetuals backed by tokenized stocks as collateral, making market makers capital-efficient (roughly 100%) versus synthetic perps with off-chain hedges (roughly 50%).

Ondo Perps uses a hybrid model: execution lives off-chain in secure enclaves verified by multiple testers; deposits and withdrawals are on-chain and non-custodial.

Most popular tokenized stocks include Circle, Micron, Tesla, and now SpaceX; offshore retail, market makers, and institutions all trade these products.

Incumbents like NASDAQ building 24-7 weekend markets on private blockchains will benefit Ondo as a client, not compete; Ondo controls distribution and DeFi integrations via wrappers.

Market & price signals

Early SpaceX token buyers gained approximately 30% after minting began on June 12. Circle is surprisingly the top-traded tokenized stock by volume, followed by Micron and Tesla. Offshore perp demand on Ondo Perps exceeded internal projections during public beta testing.

Actionable insights

Tokenized stocks on-chain allow borrowing against them as collateral—on Ondo Perps or emerging DeFi protocols—enabling leverage and portfolio strategies unavailable in traditional brokerage.

The offshore perp market will likely remain more expressive (higher leverage, broader assets) than any regulated onshore equivalent; both will coexist, and the U.S. should avoid overregulating to stay competitive.

Patient builders holding tokenized stocks can use them as collateral for weekend carry trades (shorting equities offshore, collecting funding rates) and participate in emerging portfolio strategies unavailable in traditional finance.

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