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#292: Diving into tbDEX with Mike Brock

12/29/2021 · 87 min · transcript via mlx

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Key topics

— Mike Brock's eight-year journey at Block (formerly Square), from early Cash App work through integrating Bitcoin in 2017 to leading TBD, the company's newest business unit focused on decentralized financial infrastructure.

— The philosophy behind TBDex: a messaging protocol designed to create decentralized on-ramps and off-ramps between fiat currency and Bitcoin, addressing the "fatal conceit" that most users still must transact in traditional financial systems.

— TBDex's use of decentralized identity (DIDs) and verifiable credentials to establish trust networks between users and participating financial institutions (PFIs) without requiring centralized custody or data aggregation.

— The rejection of pure trustlessness in fiat-to-crypto exchange due to the irreversibility and regulation inherent in traditional payment systems; instead, TBDex enables distributed social trust similar to how certificate authorities work on the web.

— KYC/AML compliance reimagined through zero-knowledge proofs and self-sovereign identity, reducing data exposure while still meeting regulatory obligations.

— Mike's thesis that anonymity and pseudonymity are distinct from privacy; financial transactions require some degree of social trust to function, and TBDex optimizes for privacy while allowing parties to set their own trust standards.

Market & price signals

— None discussed.

Actionable insights

— TBDex represents a long-term vision for friction-free Bitcoin adoption; even if you're skeptical of regulatory compliance, the protocol's architecture maximizes individual choice and optionality by allowing both buyers and sellers to set their own trust requirements.

— If you want to follow TBDex development and contribute, the project is open-source on GitHub and Twitter under the handle @TBD54566975; early engagement with the protocol design may shape how on-ramps evolve.

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