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Dan Ives

The Pomp Podcast

Is AI Taking Money & Attention Away From Bitcoin? | Dan Ives

- AI as a multi-year bull market: Ives emphasizes we are in year three of a 10-year AI buildout, with opportunities across chips, software, infrastructure, and cybersecurity sectors. The trade remains in early innings despite recent gains. - Self-created PR problems in tech: Major AI companies (Anthropic, Microsoft executives) have damaged public perception by publicly discussing job losses, creating regulatory and political backlash that threatens data center construction and infrastructure deployment. - SpaceX as AI derivative play: Ives views SpaceX's orbital data centers and satellite infrastructure as a critical derivative of the AI revolution, with potential 2027 merger with Tesla to consolidate data, energy generation, and compute capabilities. 80% of the valuation is future-oriented. - U.S. leading in AI models and software, China leading in robotics and power: The competitive landscape is nuanced—America has advantages in chips (Nvidia), hyperscalers, and software (Anthropic, Palantir), while China leads in robotics, nuclear power, and applications. Both nations need each other. - Capital rotation from crypto to AI: Bitcoin and crypto are experiencing capital displacement toward AI trades, though Ives views this as normal pendulum shifts in risk allocation rather than permanent displacement. - Data center construction as critical bottleneck: Without data center approvals and construction, AI infrastructure cannot scale. Regulatory delays and local opposition pose existential risk to the entire thesis.