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Bitcoin Wins By Simply Not Playing The Time Game | Jordi Visser

8/15/2026 · 60 min · transcript via mlx

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AI stocks have rebounded strongly off recent lows, with the Nasdaq 100 up 70% year-to-date despite a sharp drawdown; Jordy emphasizes this reflects earnings growth outpacing S&P valuation growth, not a market "bottom call."

Figure Technologies is growing revenue at over 100% year-over-year and EBITDA at 50%+ (a "rule of 150"), driven by removing friction from loan origination and settlement via blockchain technology and AI automation.

Tokenization and AI agents will accelerate transaction velocity, allowing real estate closings and financial operations to move from 30-60 days to minutes, fundamentally reshaping GDP and deflationary dynamics.

Bitcoin is positioned as a time-independent asset that will not suffer from the exponential acceleration of AI and business cycles; Jordy calls it "the S&P 500 of ten years from now."

Legacy banks like JPMorgan face structural headwinds because they operate at "human speed" and carry bureaucratic overhead; AI-native and crypto-native firms (Figure, Robinhood, PayPal, Coinbase) will outgrow them.

Large language model companies (Anthropic, OpenAI) face deceleration risk once growth plateaus; the real value lies in specialized, open-source models and AI agents integrated into business operations, not frontier models alone.

Market & price signals

Earnings for the S&P 500 are growing at 30%+ year-over-year, while the index itself is up ~20% annualized—indicating multiple compression rather than euphoria. Core CPI surprised to the downside at 2.5% year-over-year, well below expectations given tariffs, energy prices, and nominal GDP acceleration; Jordy attributes this to early deflationary effects from AI-driven productivity and lower-cost providers (e.g., insurance startups using AI). Two-year Treasury yields remain elevated above the Fed funds rate, pricing in future rate hikes that may not materialize. Oil prices remain subdued (~$65 expected year-end) despite geopolitical risk, suggesting markets are pricing in longer-term pipeline and Hormuz-mitigation infrastructure. Nasdaq 100 (COSPI 200) bounced 50% off its lows on low volume, typical of capitulation reversals. Micron trades above $900 after Jordy sold at lower prices; he re-entered at $700+ on improved earnings and DRAM demand from AI compute acceleration.

Actionable insights

Adopt a Bayesian, mosaic-thinking approach rather than trying to pick tops and bottoms; reset your thesis when new information arrives (better earnings, structural contracts, accelerated demand), and accept that past prices do not anchor future decisions.

Watch for companies with "rule of 150" growth (revenue growth + margin expansion summing to 150%+) in AI, crypto, and fintech—they are displacing legacy intermediaries and will compound significantly as transaction friction disappears; Figure, Robinhood, and specialized AI-integrated businesses are rare examples.

Monitor tokenization and AI-agent adoption in real estate and lending; when closings compress from 30 days to days and velocity increases, deflationary pressures will emerge despite headline inflation fears—position accordingly in assets that benefit from speed and automation over time-based earnings.

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