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The Hurdle Rate

Podcasters Per Share | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 74

9/15/2026 · 67 min · transcript via mlx

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Adam Livingston joins Strive as VP of Investments; his public analysis impressed leadership enough to bring him in-house despite no prior employment at the firm.

Trust is the foundational infrastructure of capital markets, made legible through Bitcoin's 24/7 transparency and weekly balance-sheet updates from Strive and Strategy.

The Clarity Act (600 pages of regulatory framework) aims to reduce trust costs for traditional institutions engaging with crypto and digital assets, though it does not create new risk-weighting guidance.

AI doomerism from frontier labs (Anthropic, OpenAI) appears strategically timed to raise valuations and erect moats via government regulation, potentially locking out open-source competition.

The 10-year Treasury yield touched 5% for the first time in months; Besant likely deploying capital gradually to build political cover for larger Treasury market intervention if yields continue rising.

Strive hit an all-time market cap of $2.75 billion; Strategy bought back $139 million of STRC and Strive acquired 469 Bitcoin at $77,954 average cost, reaching 25,000 Bitcoin on balance sheet.

Market & price signals

10-year Treasury yield hit 5% Monday; base case estimate is 5.25–5.75% before potential intervention.

Bitcoin is up and holding near all-time highs in the face of rising yields, suggesting healthy liquidity conditions.

STRC traded near $99, recovering from prior weakness; SEDA crossed warrant strike price ($27, expiring 12 October) and paid dividends while STRC remained relatively flat.

Preferred equity (PFF down 1.4% over one week) vs. STRC (up 1.3%) shows 260 basis point delta, indicating stronger credit-market positioning of Bitcoin treasuries.

50% CAGR from current levels to 2030 yields ~$500K Bitcoin, historically "tame" relative to past 200-week moving average recoveries.

Actionable insights

Strive and Strategy have no debt and are structurally positioned to absorb a short-term Bitcoin drawdown to $40K–$50K if Treasury crisis forces liquidity flooding, which would then catalyze multi-year rally.

Monitor SEDA and STRC credit spreads versus the 10-year yield; compressing spreads (as yields rise) signal that digital-credit instruments are outperforming traditional alternatives and building institutional trust.

Prepare for volatility in the "messy middle"—small scary events (bugs, exploits, policy shocks) will occur but will not derail long-term AI or Bitcoin adoption; public acknowledgment of tail risks before they occur preserves credibility when markets recover.

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